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	<title>Comments on: Daily Outrage: Second Life &#8220;Community&#8221; Conference</title>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2007/08/27/daily-outrage-second-life-community-conference/#comment-9954</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been on this problem for quite some time, i.e. the lack of transparency and democratic participation:
http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2006/11/get_rid_of_thes.html

These folks have got to go -- and others more accountable and competent have to take their place, no question.

Too much focus on frat-boy-style entertainment and not enough seriousness.

That said, I don&#039;t think a community conference bulletin should be indexed like a law-school book. That&#039;s over the top. Better information, sure, but seriously, nobody is going to sit and index and fiddle with page numbers on a thing like this, that&#039;s not normal.

Furthermore, wikis are stupid, people don&#039;t use them, they only serve the technical nerd. Birds of a Feather can find each other when there are *organized meals*. It&#039;s terrible at a conference like this that only lunch was provided, and not coffee, donuts and organized dinners, even if at a variety of venues. That meant people just couldn&#039;t sit down and talk normally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on this problem for quite some time, i.e. the lack of transparency and democratic participation:<br />
<a href="http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2006/11/get_rid_of_thes.html" rel="nofollow">http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2006/11/get_rid_of_thes.html</a></p>
<p>These folks have got to go &#8212; and others more accountable and competent have to take their place, no question.</p>
<p>Too much focus on frat-boy-style entertainment and not enough seriousness.</p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t think a community conference bulletin should be indexed like a law-school book. That&#8217;s over the top. Better information, sure, but seriously, nobody is going to sit and index and fiddle with page numbers on a thing like this, that&#8217;s not normal.</p>
<p>Furthermore, wikis are stupid, people don&#8217;t use them, they only serve the technical nerd. Birds of a Feather can find each other when there are *organized meals*. It&#8217;s terrible at a conference like this that only lunch was provided, and not coffee, donuts and organized dinners, even if at a variety of venues. That meant people just couldn&#8217;t sit down and talk normally.</p>
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		<title>By: Oberon Octagon</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2007/08/27/daily-outrage-second-life-community-conference/#comment-9827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oberon Octagon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I concur. I enjoyed most of the programs I attended, but it was on faith as far as what the program was about. And I have to wonder how many more people would attend if they had a better idea of what they were going to see. Each point you make is valid and not at all unreasonable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur. I enjoyed most of the programs I attended, but it was on faith as far as what the program was about. And I have to wonder how many more people would attend if they had a better idea of what they were going to see. Each point you make is valid and not at all unreasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg Kribble</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2007/08/27/daily-outrage-second-life-community-conference/#comment-9796</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...since there were no page numbers.&lt;/i&gt;

Wow! You didn&#039;t mention that when we chatted.  That&#039;s even worse than the &quot;official&quot; Second Life guidebook not having an index!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;since there were no page numbers.</i></p>
<p>Wow! You didn&#8217;t mention that when we chatted.  That&#8217;s even worse than the &#8220;official&#8221; Second Life guidebook not having an index!</p>
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		<title>By: SLCC: It has happened &#171; Tao&#8217;s Thoughts on Second Life</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2007/08/27/daily-outrage-second-life-community-conference/#comment-9712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SLCC: It has happened &#171; Tao&#8217;s Thoughts on Second Life]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is also this complaint by Jim Milles where he talks about lacking information in the printed conference program. Now I [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Cybergrrl Oh</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2007/08/27/daily-outrage-second-life-community-conference/#comment-9705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cybergrrl Oh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting observations. I was thinking their massive disorganization was limited to their inworld efforts. I spent two days teleporting all around SL to find events or gatherings or even a way to listen to a stream. I found all the listening stations but they never were working when I was there.

Finally found the Masquerade Ball through another SLer and it was very modestly attended. Everyone I know who would have loved to be there didn&#039;t know about it unless I IM&#039;d and TP&#039;d them. 

Overall, for an SL-oriented conference, it did a poor job of publicizing anything, much less organizing anything inworld. BlogHer did a much better job - a fantastic one, in fact, with panels, booths and streaming events from the RL conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting observations. I was thinking their massive disorganization was limited to their inworld efforts. I spent two days teleporting all around SL to find events or gatherings or even a way to listen to a stream. I found all the listening stations but they never were working when I was there.</p>
<p>Finally found the Masquerade Ball through another SLer and it was very modestly attended. Everyone I know who would have loved to be there didn&#8217;t know about it unless I IM&#8217;d and TP&#8217;d them. </p>
<p>Overall, for an SL-oriented conference, it did a poor job of publicizing anything, much less organizing anything inworld. BlogHer did a much better job &#8211; a fantastic one, in fact, with panels, booths and streaming events from the RL conference.</p>
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