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		<title>Comment on Legaltech: The Future of Technology: Five Trends Lawyers Can’t Ignore by Six Trends Defining the Changing Marketplace for Lawyers - O&#039;Connor&#039;s Annotations</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] law at the State University of New York at Buffalo. Among his many posts, Professor Milles wrote on The Future of Technology: Five Trends Lawyer Can’t Ignore, a summary of a talk given by Chris Anderson of LexisNexis and Jack Halprin of Google. We counted [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] law at the State University of New York at Buffalo. Among his many posts, Professor Milles wrote on The Future of Technology: Five Trends Lawyer Can’t Ignore, a summary of a talk given by Chris Anderson of LexisNexis and Jack Halprin of Google. We counted [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Do Law Professors Remain Ignorant About the Intersection of Law and Technology? by Blogging from Legaltech NY 2013 &#124; Buffalo Wings and Toasted Ravioli</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2012/12/30/how-do-law-professors-remain-ignorant-about-the-intersection-of-law-and-technology/#comment-12154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blogging from Legaltech NY 2013 &#124; Buffalo Wings and Toasted Ravioli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] few weeks ago I wrote a post about how law professors manage to remain ignorant of the intersections between law and technology. Thanks to Carolyn Elefant, I learned that Legaltech offers free passes for bloggers, so deciding [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few weeks ago I wrote a post about how law professors manage to remain ignorant of the intersections between law and technology. Thanks to Carolyn Elefant, I learned that Legaltech offers free passes for bloggers, so deciding [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on law students and technology by J</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2013/01/19/more-on-law-students-and-technology/#comment-12126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, dear.  Without knowing the content you assume my fault.  &quot;If you can&#039;t think before you post, then social media probably isn&#039;t for you.&quot;   How enlightened.    You responded without thinking that you might not have an entire picture.  Or pausing to wonder are there jerks out there who enjoy their power that they will use it just for fun.  Shows how long its been since you were employed outside academia.  

In one case the opinion I expressed was very personal about competency in a generic context.  It was printed, handed to a boss, and the boss was told it was about them.  Ironically it was not.  However try explaining that with credibility, when that only comes out in discovery at a law suit.  

The second time was an anonymous blog with stories about the difficulties people were encountering in a crisis and how the system couldn&#039;t help them against a machine and how these people didnt have the resources to dig themselves out of a hole created by a confluence of events.  It was actually a matter of public policy.  A matter eventually subject to state and federal investigations.

So neither was irresponsible.  

In any event, it is experiences like mine that warn others off from social media, which was my initial point.  

Thank you for the blame, however, my own self recriminations for having an opinion on anything, and expressing it are enough.  Just like here... Expressed an opinion on social media, and I got bit!   See how that worked!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, dear.  Without knowing the content you assume my fault.  &#8220;If you can&#8217;t think before you post, then social media probably isn&#8217;t for you.&#8221;   How enlightened.    You responded without thinking that you might not have an entire picture.  Or pausing to wonder are there jerks out there who enjoy their power that they will use it just for fun.  Shows how long its been since you were employed outside academia.  </p>
<p>In one case the opinion I expressed was very personal about competency in a generic context.  It was printed, handed to a boss, and the boss was told it was about them.  Ironically it was not.  However try explaining that with credibility, when that only comes out in discovery at a law suit.  </p>
<p>The second time was an anonymous blog with stories about the difficulties people were encountering in a crisis and how the system couldn&#8217;t help them against a machine and how these people didnt have the resources to dig themselves out of a hole created by a confluence of events.  It was actually a matter of public policy.  A matter eventually subject to state and federal investigations.</p>
<p>So neither was irresponsible.  </p>
<p>In any event, it is experiences like mine that warn others off from social media, which was my initial point.  </p>
<p>Thank you for the blame, however, my own self recriminations for having an opinion on anything, and expressing it are enough.  Just like here&#8230; Expressed an opinion on social media, and I got bit!   See how that worked!</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on law students and technology by James Milles</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2013/01/19/more-on-law-students-and-technology/#comment-12095</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Milles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are responsible and irresponsible ways to use social media. Part of being a professional is recognizing that social media does not immunize the user from the consequences of his or her actions. If you can&#039;t think before you post, then social media is probably not for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are responsible and irresponsible ways to use social media. Part of being a professional is recognizing that social media does not immunize the user from the consequences of his or her actions. If you can&#8217;t think before you post, then social media is probably not for you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on law students and technology by J</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2013/01/19/more-on-law-students-and-technology/#comment-12094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ever been fired for expressing an opinion on social media that is contrary to your employer&#039;s, without naming names or giving specifics, or confidential information and been fired for it?  I have.  Twice.  Yes it is illegal since it is a recreational activity outside of work,  but we all know what happens to the employee who sues, don&#039;t we?  Even if they win they lose.  

Why I don&#039;t blog any more.  Why I only use twitter to follow.   Why FB has no last name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever been fired for expressing an opinion on social media that is contrary to your employer&#8217;s, without naming names or giving specifics, or confidential information and been fired for it?  I have.  Twice.  Yes it is illegal since it is a recreational activity outside of work,  but we all know what happens to the employee who sues, don&#8217;t we?  Even if they win they lose.  </p>
<p>Why I don&#8217;t blog any more.  Why I only use twitter to follow.   Why FB has no last name.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Do Law Professors Remain Ignorant About the Intersection of Law and Technology? by Ellen Suni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellen Suni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree in general that there is a Grand Canyon, but not every school is like that. A lot has to do with how much practice experience faculty have when they&#039;re hired. I think law profs need to be both lawyer academicians and academic lawyers, and it&#039;s hard to be both if you haven&#039;t been a lawyer other than a law clerk or biglaw associate for a year or two. The problem goes well beyond the intersection of law and technology. It is a problem at the intersection of law and practice.  Until more faculty have real practice experience, I don&#039;t see that happening much. Yet we&#039;ve seen at our school that people with significant practice experience can be fine scholars and great all-around law professors. There is no inconsistency, only increased value to students and the profession.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree in general that there is a Grand Canyon, but not every school is like that. A lot has to do with how much practice experience faculty have when they&#8217;re hired. I think law profs need to be both lawyer academicians and academic lawyers, and it&#8217;s hard to be both if you haven&#8217;t been a lawyer other than a law clerk or biglaw associate for a year or two. The problem goes well beyond the intersection of law and technology. It is a problem at the intersection of law and practice.  Until more faculty have real practice experience, I don&#8217;t see that happening much. Yet we&#8217;ve seen at our school that people with significant practice experience can be fine scholars and great all-around law professors. There is no inconsistency, only increased value to students and the profession.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Do Law Professors Remain Ignorant About the Intersection of Law and Technology? by shg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, your point about the cultural divide between practitioners and legal academia is a core problem.  Not only do I see the divide as the Grand Canyon, but I see the professoriate refusing to make any effort to yell across it. Instead, they prefer to whisper among themselves, so that the only sounds they hear are their own. That way, the are never forced to listen to the vulgar tones of lawyers saying mean things about them.

Bill and I have discussed his goals a few times, and we share many of the same objectives. Yet, I think Bill is frustrated with me because I never seem to show sufficient respect for scholarly culture. We do not share the same sacred cows, and even though he pushes the envelope from the scholar side, it&#039;s never enough to satisfy the practicing lawyer perspective.  Much as I respect Bill&#039;s efforts, they remain decidedly academic.

I wish you have commented on my post about this, as this is the sort of discussion that lawyers and academics need to have. Lawprofs won&#039;t solve anything by talking among themselves, and practicing lawyers will never be capable of engaging with the professoriate in the sweet dulcet tones they demand of us.  And so the Grand Canyon continues to separate us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, your point about the cultural divide between practitioners and legal academia is a core problem.  Not only do I see the divide as the Grand Canyon, but I see the professoriate refusing to make any effort to yell across it. Instead, they prefer to whisper among themselves, so that the only sounds they hear are their own. That way, the are never forced to listen to the vulgar tones of lawyers saying mean things about them.</p>
<p>Bill and I have discussed his goals a few times, and we share many of the same objectives. Yet, I think Bill is frustrated with me because I never seem to show sufficient respect for scholarly culture. We do not share the same sacred cows, and even though he pushes the envelope from the scholar side, it&#8217;s never enough to satisfy the practicing lawyer perspective.  Much as I respect Bill&#8217;s efforts, they remain decidedly academic.</p>
<p>I wish you have commented on my post about this, as this is the sort of discussion that lawyers and academics need to have. Lawprofs won&#8217;t solve anything by talking among themselves, and practicing lawyers will never be capable of engaging with the professoriate in the sweet dulcet tones they demand of us.  And so the Grand Canyon continues to separate us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Do Law Professors Remain Ignorant About the Intersection of Law and Technology? by James Milles</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2012/12/30/how-do-law-professors-remain-ignorant-about-the-intersection-of-law-and-technology/#comment-12048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Milles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carolyn, I agree with you about law profs paying their own way to conferences. I frequently pay my own way, or at least a large chunk of it. But in a law school culture where the emphasis is on scholarly productivity (read: the law school will pay if and only if you&#039;re presenting a paper, not learning), and where the myth still persists that law profs are making a sacrifice by teaching and not earning huge salaries on Wall Street, there is a sense of entitlement that academics have a hard time getting past.

Another difference between the practitioner and academic cultures: I did not know about comping conference fees for blogging or tweeting the conference. The culture in law schools is often just the opposite: I&#039;ve read blog discussions treating the idea of blogging or tweeting an academic presentation, where academics are often presenting draft papers, as unethical and chilling to proper academic interchange.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn, I agree with you about law profs paying their own way to conferences. I frequently pay my own way, or at least a large chunk of it. But in a law school culture where the emphasis is on scholarly productivity (read: the law school will pay if and only if you&#8217;re presenting a paper, not learning), and where the myth still persists that law profs are making a sacrifice by teaching and not earning huge salaries on Wall Street, there is a sense of entitlement that academics have a hard time getting past.</p>
<p>Another difference between the practitioner and academic cultures: I did not know about comping conference fees for blogging or tweeting the conference. The culture in law schools is often just the opposite: I&#8217;ve read blog discussions treating the idea of blogging or tweeting an academic presentation, where academics are often presenting draft papers, as unethical and chilling to proper academic interchange.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Do Law Professors Remain Ignorant About the Intersection of Law and Technology? by Carolyn Elefant</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2012/12/30/how-do-law-professors-remain-ignorant-about-the-intersection-of-law-and-technology/#comment-12047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carolyn Elefant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim,

I enjoyed your post,  and the snarkiness of my comment is not intended for you.  But it is hard for me to cry for the law profs who don&#039;t attend law/tech conferences because they would have to pay their own way.  As an independent practitioner, no one pays for my CLE or that of my colleagues.  We pay that out of our own pocket, along with office expenses, legal malpractice insurance and all the other benefits covered by law prof salaries.  What&#039;s more, for many industry conferences, academics receive a deep discount that solo lawyers do not - even though many law profs earn more than many solos.  Finally, did you know that many conferences will comp admission if you present a paper or agree to blog or tweet the conference?  If you can get in for free, you can often find cheap flights or bunk with others to save costs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I enjoyed your post,  and the snarkiness of my comment is not intended for you.  But it is hard for me to cry for the law profs who don&#8217;t attend law/tech conferences because they would have to pay their own way.  As an independent practitioner, no one pays for my CLE or that of my colleagues.  We pay that out of our own pocket, along with office expenses, legal malpractice insurance and all the other benefits covered by law prof salaries.  What&#8217;s more, for many industry conferences, academics receive a deep discount that solo lawyers do not &#8211; even though many law profs earn more than many solos.  Finally, did you know that many conferences will comp admission if you present a paper or agree to blog or tweet the conference?  If you can get in for free, you can often find cheap flights or bunk with others to save costs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No Sugar Tonight by James Milles</title>
		<link>http://jimmilles.com/2012/08/17/no-sugar-tonight/#comment-11982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Milles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks--that sounds like good advice. I just got the diagnosis Wednesday and started monitoring yesterday. How often should I be monitoring at this stage?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8211;that sounds like good advice. I just got the diagnosis Wednesday and started monitoring yesterday. How often should I be monitoring at this stage?</p>
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